"Hyderabad Liberation"

"Hyderabad Liberation" Posted by Arun Hampiholi on Apr-18-02 at 00:57 AM (EST)
These are articles on Liberation of Hyderabad, compiled by Mr. Basavaraj Koppal. Your comments on this great history of Karnataka are welcome. -Arun

I am very moved, Ravikant Patil, Apr-18-02, (1) raminfo vasantha, ravi, Dec-22-05, (108) i am not happy with your informatio..., bapar8765, Sep-18-07, (110) Step in right direction, Degulmath.V, Apr-18-02, (2) NK role gets due recognition atlast, Shivaprasad.D, Apr-19-02, (3) Wonder why..., B.Shirgurkar, Apr-22-02, (4) pleasing minorities.., R.G.Hubli, Apr-25-02, (5) I agree with you, Shrikant Soppinmath, Apr-25-02, (6) good article Arun, prakash, Apr-25-02, (7) Hyderabad Liberation, Shivanand Naganur, May-04-02, (10) Ramanand theertha, Rajiv, May-06-02, (12) Ramanand teerth Swamy, Shivanand Naganur, May-06-02, (16) Swami Ramanand Theertha, Basavaraj Koppal, May-06-02, (19) Swamiji's Birth centary begins., JAGDISH N. KULKARNI. , Oct-03-02, (83) No Ali, it was Indian Army, Arun charanthimath, May-06-02, (15) You are wrong Mr.Arun, S.Tegginamani, May-14-02, (30) Indian Army, Asha, May-15-02, (31) Indian Army, S.B.Doddamani, May-18-02, (33) Surprise, G.S.Mudkunur, Apr-26-02, (8) How frequently will the articles be..., Ravikant patil, May-03-02, (9) Re: Comments, hampiholi, May-05-02, (11) Hyd.Liberation part-II, G.S.Savanur, May-06-02, (13) I agree with you, Sharada Javali, May-06-02, (17) Why get into controversy, Arun Charanthimath, May-06-02, (14) Re: Why controversy, hampiholi, May-06-02, (20) Webmaster is answerable, Arun Charanthimath, May-07-02, (21) Wrong attitude, Rajesh Thorangatti, May-08-02, (23) I agree with you Rajesh, Sanadi D., May-09-02, (26) webmaster , Shantangowdar, May-20-02, (34) Re:Webmaster, hampiholi, May-20-02, (36) Disclaimer is enough, Sharada Toppanavar, May-25-02, (38) what is the controversy?, K.L.Byali, May-25-02, (37) I apologize, Arun Charanthimath, May-28-02, (44) Articles and Arun, Basavaraj Koppal, May-06-02, (18) Delay in new articles, R.W.Lobo, May-25-02, (40) I think u have to talk to poeple of..., Preetam , Aug-26-02, (72) Reply to Preetam, Basavaraj Koppal, Aug-30-02, (75) Article II , Shivkumar Sirur, May-08-02, (24) History we almost forgot, Somshekar Sirgupii, May-09-02, (25) Glorious part of our history, Vinayak M Thorvi, May-09-02, (27) An eye opener, cgkabanur, Jul-05-02, (55) can we have the articles in kannada..., Subhas patil, May-13-02, (28) Good articles, Godavari Shintri, May-13-02, (29) Hi, Pramod Shintri, Sep-23-02, (82) Nizam was not cruel, Zakir Hussain, May-20-02, (35) Re:Nizam, Tenginkai.S, May-25-02, (39) Article III, Girish Mundargi, May-27-02, (41) bravo Girish, C.Deshmukh, May-27-02, (42) youth struggle, Kashappanavar.S, May-31-02, (47) Webmaster- a suggestion, Manoj Huilgol, May-28-02, (43) Good work, Umesh Nidsoshi, May-29-02, (45) Barahagarara Balaga, Gulburga, Nagesh Moolimani, May-31-02, (46) Reg: Balaga, Kashappanavar, May-31-02, (48) Balaga has no direction, B.S.Policepatil, Jun-19-02, (50) Hyderabad and Goa liberation, Veena Salimath, Jun-14-02, (49) A request to Arun Hampiholi, Ravikant Patil, Jun-24-02, (51) I too feel the same, Savithri Gadad, Jun-25-02, (52) I agree too!!, Arun Hampiholi, Jun-27-02, (53) An eye opener..., cgkabanur, Jul-05-02, (56) Article 4, V.A.Ballolli, Jul-09-02, (57) Few thoughts, I.K.Kambalimath, Jul-09-02, (58) Good articles, Vaghdevi, Sep-04-02, (78) Arun, Basavaraj - a suggestion, Kiran Samshimath, Jul-13-02, (59) Good suggestion, G.S.Ghanti, Jul-31-02, (63) Celebration on web, Shobha Gudaganti, Aug-02-02, (64) Re: Celebrations, Arun Hampiholi, Aug-02-02, (65) Veerendra Patil, Anand Sulladmath, Jul-22-02, (60) I agree, Chidanand, Aug-21-02, (68) Sardar Patel, Jaishree Sabarad, Jul-23-02, (61) I agree with you, Vikram alur, Jul-29-02, (62) Sacrifices ignored again , Mallikarjuna Gowdar, Aug-15-02, (66) I agree with you, G.S.Kotambari, Aug-19-02, (67) Wait till September, Sunil Mohite, Aug-23-02, (69) waited 5 decades!!!, Y.A.Byali, Aug-24-02, (70) Belgaum Kannada Sahitya Sammelan, Veeranna Lakkundi, Aug-24-02, (71) good suggestion, Vidya, Sep-03-02, (77) very glad i read it.but why is it m..., Eklaspur, Aug-26-02, (73) why becoz.., Narahari, Aug-27-02, (74) I agree Narahari, V Degulmath, Aug-30-02, (76) article 9, subash, Sep-06-02, (79) My family is from Bhalki, B.G.Biradar, Sep-13-02, (80) More articles??, subash, Sep-19-02, (81) Good articles, Shashikala Hiremath, Nov-08-02, (84) Article 10, Vijay Kumar, Nov-20-02, (85) History of importance, Hiregowdar, Dec-28-02, (86) History well presented, Vidyadar Odeyar, Mar-29-03, (87) Newspaper article in Vijaya Karnata..., Basavaraj Koppal, May-14-03, (88) A must read article, patil MB, May-14-03, (89) History that I never knew, Raghavendra Rao, Jun-12-03, (90) Distorting this history, Shivanand Patil, Jun-14-03, (91) The government apathy is condemnabl..., Rajesh Doddamani, Jul-21-03, (92) regarding sri.bheemanna khandre`s i..., chandrakanth , Aug-07-03, (93) watch the Doordarshan program on Sh..., V.Degulmath, Aug-14-03, (94) Great stuff!, Ajay, Aug-22-03, (95) Hyderabad liberation day at Koppal,..., Basavaraj Koppal, Sep-14-03, (96) Koppal function, Mallanagowdar Adur, Sep-19-03, (97) Good articles, thanks Basavaraj, S.V.Desai, Sep-28-04, (98) Hyderabad Liberation, Rohit Patil, Oct-20-04, (99) Hyderabad liberation and state gove..., Veeranagowda patil, Nov-10-04, (100) Dr.Shettar you should read this, V.Shedbal, Nov-12-04, (101) HK liberation - is CM listening?, Raghavendra Joshi, Jun-16-05, (102) raminfo achievements, ravi, Aug-08-05, (103) Reverence to the elders who fought ..., Divya Rao, Aug-12-05, (104) Documentation done at Maharastra, Arvind, Aug-13-05, (105) CM and Kharge insult Liberation str..., Savitha Patil, Sep-18-05, (106) raminfo scams, ravi, Dec-22-05, (107) The real heroes of the country, S.S.Hiremath, Jan-31-06, (109)

 

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1 . "I am very moved" Posted by Ravikant Patil on Apr-18-02 at 02:47 AM (EST)
Being from North Karnataka, I feel very proud to read about the historic struggle of Hyderabad liberation. All the while, I was under impression that the Hyderabad liberation was confined to Hyderabad and surrounding region but now I am very happy to know that this historic struggle was started by Mr.Sarfraj Ali from Koppal. I very much feel proud that he dared the Nizam and his army - this is possible only for the people from the Gandu Mettida Nela. Thanks a lot Arun for putting up such a good article. Is it going to be a series of article and if so how often? Many thanks to Basavaraj Koppal as well. with regards Ravi

 

	108 . "raminfo vasantha" Posted by ravi on Dec-22-05 at 05:40 PM (EST)
	"Hyderabad Liberation" R. JAGADEESHWARA RAO MD of Ram Informatics limited www.raminfo.com doing several scams and all the board members supporting, more over the sales from the ... www.dharwad.com/dcforum/nimmaputa/8.html - 340k

 

	110 . "i am not happy with your informations about h-l" Posted by bapar8765 on Sep-18-07 at 02:49 AM (EST)
	i am not satisfied with your collections of informations as you have collected only about very few people who have fought for hydrabad liberation you must collect more information about shri prabhuraj patil i have heard that he was the commander in chief of that liberation and has lost most of his property in this struggle. so please see to it that every body who have struggled get popular instead of only mr andanswamy and puranik.

 

2 . "Step in right direction" Posted by Degulmath.V on Apr-18-02 at 04:54 AM (EST)
Arun I congragulate for this article, it is a step in the right direction. We cannot forget the sacrifices made by our elders and present day schools never mention about such historic struggles. Dharwad.com is doing the right thing and after reading the article it makes us all proud to be from north karnataka. Sarfraz Ali is really the Iron man of North Karnataka - It makes me shiver to imagine the courage that this person had to publicly challenge the might of Nizam and the cruel Razaakars - in Hyderabad. It is like challenging the present day Bin Laden and his terrorists, right in middle other hideout. It requires tremendous conviction and moral courage and Sarfraz Ali is embodiment of the same. thanks again

 

3 . "NK role gets due recognition atlast" Posted by Shivaprasad.D on Apr-19-02 at 00:13 AM (EST)
Except for some individual attempts to record the historic fight against tyranny of Nizam by the people of North karnataka, neither the state government or centre care to even acknowledge the same ( fear of losing some muslim votes is mentioned as the reason ) In this context Mr.Basavaraj Koppal has done a good job by starting compiling the facts of this heroic struggle and full kudos to Arun Hampiholi for hosting this on dharwad.com thanks

 

4 . "Wonder why..." Posted by B.Shirgurkar on Apr-22-02 at 01:32 AM (EST)
such a historic struggle was ignored by us for more than 50 years? A generation has lost touch with what happened and was it delibrately left out even when we celebrated 50 years of Independence? Makes me happy that this site has been hosting the article and I should say that by doing so, we are correcting the historical blunder of the past. cheers

 

	5 . "pleasing minorities.." Posted by R.G.Hubli on Apr-25-02 at 03:44 AM (EST)
	is the answer for the politicians ignoring such a important and historic struggle of Indian Independence. If this liberation did not happen, there was every chance of a south pakistan coming into existence and knowing the fondness ( or shall I shall I say weakness) of Nehru for muslims, this would have been worse than Kashmir for us. Good start, pl. add more and more articles on this historic struggle.

 

	6 . "I agree with you" Posted by Shrikant Soppinmath on Apr-25-02 at 04:31 AM (EST)
	I fully agree with you. The government and politicians have minority votes in mind and will not give a damn for the invaluable sacrifices that were made during our Independence struggle.

 

7 . "good article Arun" Posted by prakash on Apr-25-02 at 05:41 AM (EST)
It is nice to know that the pro-pakistan Nizam was over thrown by the Hyderabad liberation movement started by Gandhian and Indian Sarfraz Ali. We must celebrate this historic day every year and do something to keep the memories of Sarfraz Ali alive for the coming generations.

 

	10 . "Hyderabad Liberation" Posted by Shivanand Naganur on May-04-02 at 04:48 AM (EST)
	As per my knowledge the leader for Hyderabad liberation was "Swami Ramananda teerta" , who was born in Sindgi , Bijapur District. Infact Mr Narasimha Rao has acknowledged him as his "guru". I would like someone post a article regarding him. One more request to all people, donot confine your scope of discussion to Hubli/Dharawad in North Karantaka issues. NK is not just Dharawad/Hubli, it's more then that including regions of Bijapur/Belgaum/Gadag/karwar till Davangere.

 

	12 . "Ramanand theertha" Posted by Rajiv on May-06-02 at 01:09 AM (EST)
	Swami Ramanand theertha was one of the leaders of liberation of Hyderabad movement and its a fashion for present day politicians to claim that they are his students/followers. BJP and RSS have for thier own political mileage turned Ramanand theertha into a icon and portray the hyderabad liberation struggle as Hindu-muslim conflict. Swami's contribution to the struggle was more prominent in maharastra and andhra part of Hyderabad kingdom. This again is highly disputed by communists ( The brothers of present central minister Vidyasagar Rao were communist leaders who participated in a voilent struggle against Nizam in Telengana region) who claim that they were the one who fought the Nizam and liberated Hyderabad kingdom. Finally, If PVN really was a student of Swami Ramanand Theertha, then he would not have indulged in corruption and looting the country. :) with regards

 

	16 . "Ramanand teerth Swamy" Posted by Shivanand Naganur on May-06-02 at 05:47 AM (EST)
	Dear Rajiv , we don't have to worry about what all Ramanand's students did, what is relevant to us is what Ramanand teerth swanijis role in liberation. Any way thanks for the information. Dear Chirantimath their is no harm in posting such articles as long as they don't hurt any one's sentiments. I raised issue of swami Ramanand as he is also from Sindgi, Bijapur District. Also i would like some one to write about Kandagal Hanumanth Raya(Shakespeare of Kannada theatre).

 

	19 . "Swami Ramanand Theertha" Posted by Basavaraj Koppal on May-06-02 at 06:50 AM (EST)
	I have just started writing about the liberation struggle and as we proceed, we will know about more people and thier role in this historic struggle. thanks and regards

 

	83 . "Swamiji's Birth centary begins." Posted by JAGDISH N. KULKARNI. on Oct-03-02 at 05:58 PM (EST)
	>Dear Rajiv , I am happy to note that you are discussing on Ramanand teerth on this forum. From yesterday the birth cenatary begins. There is need to do much research on him we >don't have to worry about what >all Ramanand's students did, what is >relevant to us is what Ramanand >teerth swanijis role in liberation. Any >way thanks for the information. >Dear Chirantimath their is no >harm in posting such articles as >long as they don't hurt any >one's sentiments. I raised issue of >swami Ramanand as he is also >from Sindgi, Bijapur District. >Also i would like some one >to write about Kandagal Hanumanth Raya(Shakespeare >of Kannada theatre).

 

	15 . "No Ali, it was Indian Army" Posted by Arun charanthimath on May-06-02 at 01:50 AM (EST)
	If one Ali could overthrow Nizam there was no need for Indian Army to be sent to Hyderabad and liberate it. So, let us ignore this fantasy stuff and focus on today's problems - which concern you and me.

 

	30 . "You are wrong Mr.Arun" Posted by S.Tegginamani on May-14-02 at 05:54 AM (EST)
	The Indian army with all its might took four to five full days to liberate Hyderabad!!! As Basavaraj has pointed out in his article, the Shrewed Nizam had got his army and razaakars well trained by British and also got lot of arms and ammunitions from British as well. I am not saying that Indian Army would have lost the fight but even if they were held back for more than a week or so, this would have given Pakistan enough handle to make it a international issue and as in Kashmir, Nehru would have over ridden the Army protests and national interests and agreed for ceasefire. Then, I and you being from North Karnataka would still be in pakistan or whatever they would call this southern state!! The fight for liberation was the people's movement which weakened the Nizam's military might on one hand and helped Indian Army on the other. thanks

 

	31 . "Indian Army" Posted by Asha on May-15-02 at 02:03 AM (EST)
	Yes even the official website of Indian Army explains the operation which lasted 4 to 5 days but surprisingly it avoids any mention of the support that it got from people or the people's struggle for liberation. I fully agree that it was no cakewalk for Indian Army in Hyderabad and if Pakistan made it a international issue, then we would have to have another pakistan in south India as well.

 

	33 . "Indian Army" Posted by S.B.Doddamani on May-18-02 at 10:07 PM (EST)
	Correct me on this, it is said that Indian government liberated Hyderabad by police action. Was the regular army involved or was it the paramilitary forces? I would be grateful if somebody throws light on this. thanks Doddamani S.B

 

8 . "Surprise" Posted by G.S.Mudkunur on Apr-26-02 at 00:22 AM (EST)
I was surprised first as to why does site on dharwad have a article on Hyderabad liberation but now I am proud to say that I am from Dharwad and North Karnataka - which was the birth place of this historic struggle on Indian History. The Fight of Rani chennamma and later by Sangolli Rayanna defeated the British and that we lost because of treachery of our own people is another question. But in Hyderabad Liberation, the people won against the Nizam and his terrorist group of Razaakars.

 

9 . "How frequently will the articles be on this subject?" Posted by Ravikant patil on May-03-02 at 04:30 AM (EST)
Hi arun, How frequently will the article on this subject appear in this site? I am very eager to know more and more about this historic struggle.

 

	11 . "Re: Comments" Posted by hampiholi on May-05-02 at 11:30 PM (EST)
	Hello All, These great set of articles are being compiled by Mr.Koppal. I am merely publishing them on dharwad.com. I would like to thank him for enlightening us on this matter. Mr.Koppal will probably send us aricles once every two weeks and we will publish the same. Thanks, Arun Hampiholi

 

13 . "Hyd.Liberation part-II" Posted by G.S.Savanur on May-06-02 at 01:24 AM (EST)
I am shocked to read that most of people of north karnataka could not celebrate independence on 15th August 1947. Instead we had to suffer in hands of Nizam and his razaakars.!!! Now, we are not allowed to celebrate the day of liberation of Hyderabad - becoz some fanatics feel that it will hurt sentiments of muslims here!!! Be it muslims or hindus, the people of north karnatka have suffered and the government of karnataka must stop playing minority card and prevent us from celebrating our actual day of independence!! I dont know what andhra government does with respect to this day of liberation of hyderabad?

 

	17 . "I agree with you" Posted by Sharada Javali on May-06-02 at 05:47 AM (EST)
	The government must respect public opinion and correct itself. The Andhra pradesh government itself celebrates this day of liberation of Hyderabad and thereby respects the people who fought for the liberation. I dont see a reason why karnataka government should not be doing so? thanks

 

14 . "Why get into controversy" Posted by Arun Charanthimath on May-06-02 at 01:46 AM (EST)
Arun What do u gain by putting up articles on what happened nearly 6 decades ago? The guys who could have participated inthis fight are all dead and gone and this Basavaraj is trying to bring back to life - the ghosts of the past. I am totally opposing such tactics and suspect that he could be one of the BJP or VHP guys messing up with your site. The present generation has no relevance for such things and instead of raking up controversies like Hyderabad liberation struggle - which will divide Hindu-muslims again and encourage fanatics on either side to break up this country, I suggest that you focus on something more relevant to present day. I have read that this hyderabad liberation happened only because of Indian army and not because of heroics of the people of this province in any way. with regards

 

	20 . "Re: Why controversy" Posted by hampiholi on May-06-02 at 10:55 PM (EST)
	LAST EDITED ON May-06-02 AT 10:59 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON May-06-02 AT 10:57 PM (EST) Hi Mr. Arun Charantimath, dharwad.com is merely publishing the artciles sent in by visitors like you. We neither gain anything nor want to gain anything. [ BTW, we are spending thousands of rupees so that dharwad.com is there on web]. The content and views expressed are *NOT* of dharwad.com but its AUTHOR. If you have any issues, take them up with the author(s) and not dharwad.com -Thanks for your views on the matter, Arun Hampiholi

 

	21 . "Webmaster is answerable" Posted by Arun Charanthimath on May-07-02 at 01:02 AM (EST)
	Hey Hampiholi Arun As webmaster you are answerable to what is put up on the site. How do expect me to get in touch with all tom ##### and harry like Koppal, etc;. You will appreciate that i have better things to do. I repeat that by putting up such junk articles you are heading for controversy and putting the future of your site at stake.

 

	23 . "Wrong attitude" Posted by Rajesh Thorangatti on May-08-02 at 03:52 AM (EST)
	Dear Arun Charanthimath If knowing about a historic struggle for independence is wrong, then it is just the case of your wrong attitude. This site is on dharwad and north karnataka and if Arun Hampiholi deems it right to put up articles on Hyderabad liberation, I support him in doing that. If we dont read about the sacrifices made by our people, who else will? I dont think it will lead to any controversy and Basavaraj has already written about Sarfraz Ali, a devout and learned muslim who fought against Nizam - a muslim dictator. As people of the region, muslims, hindus and others have suffered and have fought for liberation of the region and its only people like you who are giving it a communal color and playing votebank politics. If you dont agree with the contents on this site, you are free to leave. thanks

 

	26 . "I agree with you Rajesh" Posted by Sanadi D. on May-09-02 at 02:36 AM (EST)
	We are people of north karnataka and then hindus or non-hindus. As the people of this region we fought for our freedom - even after India got its freedom. We must be proud of our independence spirit and the tremendous sacrifice made by our elders in this struggle. good work again to Arun Hampiholi and Basavaraj Koppal. with best wishes Sanadi.D

 

	34 . "webmaster " Posted by Shantangowdar on May-20-02 at 06:08 AM (EST)
	While I dont find anything wrong with articles on Hyderabad liberation, I find the reply from webmaster Arun Hampiholi very disappointing. He owns responsiblity for every article put up on the site and instead of asking the readers to fight with authors, he must answer to the queries from the readers. with regards

 

	36 . "Re:Webmaster" Posted by hampiholi on May-20-02 at 11:28 PM (EST)
	Sorry that you dont agree with our position. Dharwad.com does not pay any of its authors or charge any of its readers for its content. Its voluntary, open forum for exchange of views. When such is the set-up, its wrong for us to be burdened with whole(some) of the responsibility. Thanks for your understanding, Arun Hampiholi PS: There are couple of messages in the message board, that are personal attacks and they will be deleted.

 

	38 . "Disclaimer is enough" Posted by Sharada Toppanavar on May-25-02 at 03:55 AM (EST)
	Hi Few suggestions are there on webmaster taking responsibility of the content of the site. Its common knowledge that in public domains with discussion forums ,chats, etc; the ground rules be defined in the disclaimer statement of the website. Since the webmaster of dharwad.com has done a good job in the disclaimer as well, I think it is enough for the visitors to the site. ofcourse, every site will have a small percentage of visitors who differ with the webmaster or the content and this should not discourage Mr.Arun Hampiholi and in my opinion, the articles on Hyderabad liberation must be continued further.

 

	37 . "what is the controversy?" Posted by K.L.Byali on May-25-02 at 03:34 AM (EST)
	Arun Charantimath If we take your argument that there is no need to know about what happened 60 years ago, then why should anybody read about Indian history - dating back to thousands of years as well. even today our children read about history of the world as well. If we as Indians dont read about our history or culture, who else will do it? Your fears of Hindu-muslim divide is wrong, because it is not about a communal war but about the historic struggle that both muslims and hindus participated and won against the Nizam and his army. As mentioned in this forum, the all-powerful Indian army took 4 days or more to liberate Hyderabad and if people had supported Nizam then we would have lost entire Hyderabad province to pakistan. Basavaraj and Arun Hampiholi are doing good work and let us encourage them to do it, instead of speaking of imaginary and issues without logic. with regards

 

	44 . "I apologize" Posted by Arun Charanthimath on May-28-02 at 06:17 AM (EST)
	I am from Dharwad and from a young age am active with the co